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How
does it feel to finally comeback to Brazil after
all this time?
I was really pissed off
for years that the brazillians never invited me to 'Rock
in Rio'. I thought like: "well
you plastic, superficial fuckers... fuck you".
I was really bitter about that...I played here once,
these little wierd-ass gigs and very few people showed
up.
When was that?
1989, in Sao Paulo, in a University gymnasium or
something like that. I guess there was a thousand
people watching, students mostly, they looked like.
Then, here, in Rio, I fucking loved it - a little
crummy club, I don’t know the name...
Copa something... I remember it had a cat and a rat
in the dressing room and I loved it.
How did feel like playing
here this time?
I got a very good vibe. I felt like people really
enjoyed it. I had no idea whether they would know us
or anything. I thought: “well maybe they just
like Billy Idol’s rock and roll here where you
just wear a lot of leather jackets and shit, and you
are pretty”. I knew that Sonic Youth was coming,
they are very... artsy. I also know there’s this
tradition down here of the "coddled latin american
intellectual" [laughs]. I kind of
follow that kind of shit. You have a little bunch of
these people in each country who are university educated
and not really threatened with too much work or anything...
I thought: "Well, they will all like Sonic Youth...
so, what are we going to do?". Then suddenly people
were so receptive. There was a nice feeling in the
people here, there was an open vision. I did not really
know or care what people were bringing to our show
in terms of expectation, but you could see, as we were
playing, open eyes and ears and then you started seeing
people reacting to the beat. Those are very basic things,
but they are the most important things, you know?
Do you ever consciously feel
a presence, like a sort of possesing entity when
you take the stage, like you are sort
of channeling something that isn’t exactly "you",
you know what I mean...
[laughing] Well... that’s exactly
what lord so and so asked about... He actually used
the same words. Is that what you see?
I know you as Jim and we sit
around and talk, and laugh, and have dinner with
the girls... Jim is a pretty nice little guy... Then
he gets up on stage and here comes this fucking Iggy...
from mild mannered, soft spoken Jim to... raw power.
Is it that different? Really? I don’t know
much about how that goes on. I just usually don’t
express myself too much... But at that particular
moment when I’m doing this thing, working a
stage or recording, if it’s something in
that sort of whatever this music thing is, then I
will say “ok, this is where i must.”.
I don’t know, choose your cliche, “express
my humanity stand up and be counted, jump to the
next dimension”, whatever the fuck, you know,
be a baboon, whatever it is I’m up to.
Do you feel like you’re
serving some higher force?
I don’t know about that... it could be
a lower force.
What you used to do in the
60's...
I would do things... For example, once we got a house
together to try and make our music... I would take
acid, turn on like an electric organ I had in the
basement, turn an amplifier on 10 with the organ
coming thru it. I just put my feet up on it for eight
hours. I would just lay there on acid with my feet
up on the fucking keys and I would not move them...
I didn’t have to, because it was all moving,
you know? So I went through all that silly shit...
I remember once I was with the band and we all smoked
DMT, and I saw a huge, finely detailed Buddha appeared
on the ceiling. I realized it wasn’t really
there, but I noticed it was too detailed and I realized
that was more detailed than I thought my mind was
capable of handling. At the same time I thought that
it would be my higher mind or the lower mind and
I said: "I got to take off my clothes."....I
was living with three young guys but they understood
me, they didn’t mind. "He's got to take
off his clothes." So I was nude, with my
band, for a year. [laughs]
What about the people from little Muskegon,
where you were born, what did they think abou that?
They felt really sorry for me. We played a house
party for our friends -- we weren’t fully formed.
I was an instrumentalist still and everybody was
embarrased for us. That was on halloween 's 67...
and they didn’t give up. After that we got
some press we didn’t expect from a college
newspaper... and they only knew my name as Iggy.
It came from a band I was in, years before as a drummer,
called the Iguanas. I hated that, I was like, fuck
that, who wants a name like IGGY, you know? Try getting
a date in 1968 and saying "Hi, my name is IGGY." People
make a face, beat you up, you know?. It works now.
People are like, "hey, Iggy" and all smiles...
somethings changed.
Sometimes I think of “Search
and Destroy” as like the soundtrack for the
apocolypse...
As soon as we started playing again, me and The Stooges, somebody said
to me: “This is great because there was Vietnam, now there is war
in Iraq and you are back. This is a perfect time for The Stooges!". So,
yeh, maybe there is something to that: war band... you know, could be...
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